CNN guests clash over safety and economic claims in heated debate

A heated debate occurred on CNN between Madison Gesiotto, a Trump supporter, and former anchor John Avlon. Gesiotto claimed America is poorer and less safe than in 2019, while Avlon argued crime rates are lower now than during Trump's presidency. Avlon insisted on a "fact-based debate," countering Gesiotto's claims about safety and economic conditions. Gesiotto accused him of ignoring manipulated statistics, particularly regarding crime in cities like New York. The discussion highlighted differing views on crime statistics, with Avlon referencing data from the FBI and Bureau of Justice Statistics, which show a long-term decline in crime rates, despite recent fluctuations.